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When we look at gay marriage, we cringe in disgust,
the Bible has taught us that it's wrong...that it's a sin.

And if it truly is a sin, like we believe,
than why do we treat same sex-couples so...horrendously ?

We often say “hate the sin, love the sinner”,
but I think we go about the wrong way of doing that.

The bible tells us to love our enemies, but I think
we tend to disregard the fact.

If you steal from me, and I steal from you, then we're both sinners,
but we forgive and forget, and transform into winners.

Why can't we do the same for the man who marries his husband,
or the woman who ends the life of her unborn child?

We often say, “Hate the sin, and love the sinner”
But I think what you mean is, “Hate the sin, and hate the sinner.”
But according to your logic, we should be hating one another.
When did the bible become a pick-and-chose deal?

You say the Old Testament, but Jesus came and changed,
what that was about, and retaught us how to behave.

He fought for the sinners, the blind and the lame,
he fought for the outcast, the minorities and the shamed.

But hypocrites, I tell you, you've become the majority,
and with every word you speak, you nail the hands of Authority

To the wooden cross, to hang and stay,
and die a painful death in three days.

And since Christ has not come back, He works through us,
and through Him we must spread His joy and love.

Don't call yourself Christians if you cannot do that,
because Jesus loved the sinners, I’m sure of that.

But call yourself Christians, if you can love like me,
and we'll accept that we're all sinner and that's how it will be.

My teachers often said, “All suffering is the same in the eyes of God.”
So we're in this together, no matter the race, or orientation or anything odd.

Behold, the Kingdom of God is here with us here; hidden in plain sight, a jewel on Earth,
and as brothers in sisters, we'll indulge in it's mirth.
We are children of God, open your eyes don't you see,
so do not call yourself a Christian if you cannot agree with me.
First let me clarify what the last lines means: "We are children of God, open your eyes don't you see,

so do not call yourself a Christian if you cannot agree with me." 

What I mean is if you cannot agree that we're all Children of God, than you can't call yourself a Christian, you just can't. Face it, if in Christ, a gay man, a lesbian woman, they're your brothers in sisters. If you're going to put your ferocity in how much you hate them, than why not put that same ferocity in your love for them. 

A couple of videos that inspired my poem : 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDCCF… -> Prince of Egypt 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pLCDn… Hunchback of Notre Dame

Even if you're not religious, I recommend you watching them both, but more importantly, the 2nd link. That was the inspiration for this mostly. 

As usual, this poem consist of many voices. Whether you believe that being gay, bi, trans, lesbian , or having an abortion is a sin, than that's your opinion. I don't think being gay is a sin. 

Tell me what you think, please be respectful. 

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hamcon Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
  I was so afraid that it would be another "You are not Christian if you believe that gays can be married" but you have proved me wrong.  (Believe me, they are the most vocal for the sites like youtube)

Also I have seen Hunchback of Notre Dame, it is a great movie.  Need to see Prince of Egypt, and 10 commandments.
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I'm so glad I proved you wrong! If our God is love, then our religion must be love of all things as well! 
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Queen-of-Flowers Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2015  Student General Artist
I believe there is plenty of proof in the Bible that being homosexual, as well as a number of other things that our society treats as normal or okay, is a sin. I won't post all the verses here because it looks like some other users have already done so, but I would just like to add my support to that group. :) On the other hand, I think you can totally be, and SHOULD be, compassionate and kind to a homosexual/etc. person without having to support or agree with their lifestyle. Just because you treat someone who is homosexual with kindness doesn't mean you are condoning their lifestyle.
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RuetheFox Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i agree with part of it, but about the gay part: 
1 Corinthians 6:9 says
"Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are prostitutes, or practice homosexuality,"
the reason they say we should not say homo is okay because according to this verse, it will keep people from going to heaven and God despises everything that will keep us away from him. He will forgive if we confess though, but we can't keep on doing as much sin as we can and say "don't worry, God forgives" while Jesus in his right hand says "do you know what your forgiveness cost me? I had flesh torn out of me, gore gushed from me, i had to wear a crown of thorns, i was humiliated and you keep on sinning." well, just saying.
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littlesonic1234 Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That was well said. Clap Cling to the Cross emote :D 
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
:D Thank you. 
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littlesonic1234 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
your welcome
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JoetheBladeMaster Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2015
I completely agree that we should love someone even if we think they are doing something wrong.
But I have never met a Christian who hates gay or lesbian people. Ever.
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
As a Christian, I've meant many. Thank you so much for the comment! 
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hamcon Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
As an athiest, they are the most vocal people I meet online.  
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JaneZaneColeNicole Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
So, is there a quote in the Bible that says God created man for woman only? I just wwasnt tto be sure so I can place my views correctly. I'm not for gays, nor am I against them
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EdenEvergreen Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2015
Romans 1:24, 26-27 states pretty strongly that same-gender sexuality is a sin... just like lying, adultery, stealing, slandering... or any other sin.

I'm not against the people, nor is the Bible. It is only a matter of a sinful behavior which is not condoned. (Please see my prior post, a few below this, which goes into greater detail on this topic.)

If you don't have a Bible handy, the verses mentioned above state (ESV):

"Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves...

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."

I hope that information helps your understanding. :) Please feel free to look up the entire chapter, because it lists a number of other sins which are considered equally as problematical as this one.

May all who read this enjoy a safe, healthy and happy life. :aww:

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lidsworth Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I'm actually not sure, I do know that when Eve is created, he describes their relationship, and of course he calls them "man" and "woman", but I don't believe there's anywhere in the bible that specifically says it's just for a man and woman. 
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GhostNinjaART Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2015  Student General Artist
You can still be a Christian and love/respect gays/people with gay lifestyles. Just because we disagree about something doesn't mean we have to hate each other. Can an atheist and a Christian be friends? Of course! Same thing here. :) 
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
=) Thanks for the comment! 
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EdenEvergreen Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2015
I agree that Christ died to save everyone -- even those who are living in sin (which is everybody, especially before they come to know Christ).

We are all made in God's image, regardless of what we do with that image. In the Ten Commandments, we are instructed to "love our neighbor as we love ourselves."

Those Scriptures, among others, teach us that everyone, regardless of their behavior, should be treated with courtesy, dignity, and respect. Anything less is not truly being "loving."

As a Christian, who is commanded (by God, through Scriptures like 2 Timothy 2:15) to study the Bible and learn from it, I am commanded to behave kindly toward everyone -- regardless of their behavior, or their sins. They are still a fellow human being.

Just because I am not tempted by a particular sin does not make me any better than they are. I have plenty of shortcomings, and I sometimes fail to resist temptations. I have no just cause to be proud, or "look down" on another human being.

It is unfortunate that so many people fail to truly love the sinner, while still hating sins.

To this extent, I agree with what you have written. I do call myself a Christian -- even though I cannot follow Scripture and still agree with all of your assertions.

It's like when someone has cancer. Hating the disease is fine, but hating the patient is -never- acceptable. The patient needs help, and that help should be provided without insults. Behaving kindly toward them, without helping to treat their cancer, wouldn't truly be loving... would it?

We all struggle with weaknesses and temptations. However, if we try to pretend that surrendering to a temptation is somehow "okay," then we're doing both ourselves, and others, a disservice.

Another example: someone inclined to steal should be treated well, although with the understanding that they have behavior issues. Don't leave valuables lying in plain view or easily accessible, if you know that you're dealing with someone who's struggling with temptations toward behaving as a thief. Tempting them toward more sin isn't kind... or wise.

It's possible to be tolerant of others, and even loving toward them, without embracing their errors. It may be difficult at first, but it grows easier with time. There are some wonderful people out there, who have weaknesses toward very visible sins. However, less visible sins are equally wrong.

Either one believes the Bible, or one does not. Picking and choosing parts to follow, and other parts to throw out, is not true Christianity, either.

Agreed that hate is a sin. However, if one reads the Bible, one cannot ignore Scriptures like Romans 1:27 that specify homosexuality is a sin.

The word "Christian" means "Christ-like." He associated with all manner of sinners, without being unkind to any of them. On the other hand, He neither encouraged nor condoned their sins. He treated them well, while also discouraging their misdeeds.

The tragedy with most homosexuals, either male or female, is that they too often place their entire identity into their inclination to be romantically / sexually involved with their own gender. Few among them seem to think of themselves as artists, or writers, or whatever job they do, or in connection with other interests they have (stamp collector, sports enthusiast, movie fan, martial artist, etc).

Too many people ignore everything else that goes into making them who they are, and fall into the bad habit of identifying themselves merely according to their "preference" with respect to romance / sexuality. They forget that they are human beings first, and that their homosexual inclinations are only secondary to their humanity.

Unfortunately, many who are -not- of those inclinations accept that severely limited definition, also. They forget that there's a whole lot more that goes into making a person who they are than merely their inclinations when it comes to romance / sexuality.

The result of this double-edged limited thinking is that when someone says that "homosexuality is a sin," those who practice that behavior feel attacked in their identity. They overlook the possibility that the person making that statement -might- only be down on that one single aspect of their behavior... instead of being down on them as an individual human being.

I have friends who are homosexual. I don't bring it up. However, if they do, I will honestly tell them that I can't agree with that part of their behavior. I'll remind them about many of the other things that are part of who they are, things that I genuinely admire and appreciate about them. Most times, we simply don't discuss that subject.

Insults are -always- inappropriate. Character slurs are -always- inappropriate. However, when the subject of homosexual behavior comes up, agreeing with Scripture that it is a sin is not necessarily "homophobia."

I'm not afraid of anybody. I don't hate anybody.

However, like lying and stealing and adultery and arrogance... homosexuality is a sin.

I am commanded, by the Bible, to disagree with homosexual behavior. I can't honestly call myself a Christian if I don't obey Scripture.

Disagreement is -not- automatically hate. Sometimes, sadly, it is. But not always.

It -is- possible to love a sinner while hating their behavior. Unfortunately, many people fail to achieve that, and, as you say, fall into the sin of hating both. When that happens, it is a tragic distortion of the principle.

Assuming that anyone is being hateful, when they call homosexuality "a sin" is inaccurate. That assumption is just as judgmental and intolerant toward the objector as you're accusing the objector of being toward homosexuals.

Talk to them. Find out if they're really homophobic, or if they simply find that behavior objectionable -- and don't have any other problem with the people who practice it.

I can, and do, have compassion for many people who are caught in all manner of sins. I treat every one of them kindly and with respect. However, if the subject of their sins comes up, I won't pretend that a sin is anything other than a sin.

I understand that you'll probably disagree with me. That's expected. I simply write to offer an alternative perspective. I hope that, perhaps, it will encourage you to be less limited in your thinking. :)
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stealthwizzard Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
hating a gay person is a sin, yes, but being gay is a sin too. i mean, we're all sinners and i'm not any better than a gay person, but that doesn't mean that being gay is right. we are all wrong but we should all be trying to be better, not because we can do anything to earn heaven or salvation but because it makes God happy, and because we want to be better to please him. 
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Yaoiwriter25 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Honestly i find homophobic a sin, because your disliking someone for someone they love. It's GODS choice who goes to heaven not YOURS. 
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Hate is a sin, therefore, homophobia is a sin as well. 
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Yaoiwriter25 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I am going to love and write what i want, i am christian. I believe in god, i don't believe you go to hell for it. 
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
True. I agree so much. 
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Yaoiwriter25 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I only write gay romance lol 
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
True, 95% of my writings in fanfiction are composed of gay couples. 
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Yaoiwriter25 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
100 percent mine are of gay couples XD
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Amylee23 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015   Artist
I dont see anything wrong with Gay marriage or lesbians..good thing I dont think of it as a sin. This is Amazing
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Neither do I, thank you for the comment. 
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Amylee23 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015   Artist
You´re welcome
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kevinkamondo Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2015  Student Artist
I love this one so much, this is so awesome! I have always supported GLBT, and I asked myself if that was wrong and Christ hates that. But later it led me to a thought, that would Christ be happy if we hate the GLBT, treat them harshly as if they are not human and call them "sinners"? Of course He wouldn't. Besides, I don't think gay, or lesbian are sins. They are still love. 

p.s: But what do you think, when I say I'm a trans man, and also a gay? I'm a sinner as well, aren't I?
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ExaltGod Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2015
Question: in your last 2 lines, are you saying that everyone is a child of God, or that only all saved people are children of God?
Because the Bible pretty clearly teaches that not everyone is a child of God--John 8:44, Galatians 3:26, Romans 8:12-17, etc.
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I believe everyone is a child of God, the bible contradicts itself on this, so there's no point of me looking up the verses. God made us all in his image, we're all his children. 
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ExaltGod Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015
Show me the verses that you think say that everyone is a child of God automatically and we can discuss them.
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ThatOneNekoGFX Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I get this feeling way too much, as I'm a gay christian who goes to church on a regular basis...
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
I feel ya. Thanks for the comment. 
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asdfmovienerd39 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014
My opinion is that homosexuals  should be treated just as good as straight people but shouldn't be treated better. We should  always be treated equally.
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
true. 
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asdfmovienerd39 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015
Specifically what I said about homosexuals getting treated better than straight people is especially true with my school. But, hey, better than treating them badly. I just don't think its fair my girlfriend and I get jumped onto for showing public displays of affection, when homosexuals can do basically whatever they want.
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. 
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asdfmovienerd39 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015
I'm expecting a bunch of idiots to jump at me and call me a homophobe now.
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ask-theangelofsouls Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2015
Ogoleithus: I would chime in with my two cents, but that's none of my business 
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asdfmovienerd39 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2015
I'm serious, I posted a journal about this and literally all the comments were just people yelling at me and calling me homophobe. So many in fact I had to make a separate journal explaining how I wasn't a homophobe.
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ask-theangelofsouls Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2015
Ogoleithus: I know that 
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CookieMilkShake Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014
Indeed. I don't care if one is straight, gay, bi, or asexual, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, or even Pagan. It's their choice, none of my business, and I'll judge by their character if they're a good or bad person. If someone's a straight Christian who treats me like crap, then I don't want to be friends with them. If someone's a gay Atheist and they treat me like a friend, then yeah, I want to be their friend. It doesn't matter their sexuality nor their religion, it's what's on the inside.
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
True! Thanks for the comment! 
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CookieMilkShake Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015
Np. owo
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Spottedclawlovescats Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2014   Digital Artist
I'm a Christian and I say that gay is ok.  I'm happy for whoever is gay and loves it, or straight and loves it. Who knows? being gay is probably great, but I'm not gay, so who am I to judge? yup :3 Keep loving cats
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Agreed, thank you. 
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Spottedclawlovescats Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015   Digital Artist
:3
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ADopeyDreamer Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
while i agree with what you say, i think as Christians we should HELP homosexuals out of their sin and i agree that we should be loving towards them, but if we truly love them then we will lovingly help them out of their sin. Not leave them in it.
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lidsworth Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
i see where you're coming from, though i think it depends on the Christian. 
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BashfulBasil Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I have never found being gay a sin (i'm bisexual so...) I'm a christian who is bisexual, i hate the sin and love the sinners.

My theory on gays is

If you love someone, same sex or not, and they return your love, then you should be together. No matter what others say.
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